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making a game is my own personal project - regardless of what engine I use... so I fail to see the reason to include a program's logo on it. Maybe it's just me, but I like MY work to be mine - if I built a house, I don't think I would say I build it with "hammer"... anyway, just my thoughts |
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@just_in_case you know...you're attitude and blocking people kind of makes me want to say "well, phooey on you too!" I started using CC years ago - before it was free... so I have paid for it. It is a tool I have bought and enjoyed using. And Niko was glad for me and happily helped me to get the most out of it. But now YOU want to degrade me? Well, O.K. - I think I will stop answering you as well, Good day Sir... I said good day... |
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Thanks a lot for your valuable comments guys, but as I clearly mentioned when I posted this thread, It is my personal opinion and my own perspective regarding Assets I personally made for the community along with my personal Discord server, and I think just like you guys have enough right to hide the logo and other things. I do also have the right to make rules and decisions for things that I produce even if my decisions will go against your views on this topic and all. 
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Sure you definitely can. But how your position or this browl helps your goal of making coppercube more popular? Your actions contradict your goals. |
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If you go to itch.io then you will notice the most popular game on ithc.io were created in Coppercube game engine, getting a lot of downloads and YouTube gameplays by a lot of famous Youtubers. Like the Smiling man, Camp Massacre, and some other, I am not specifically talking about the branding logo, but atleast the developer of those games would have mentioned the engine in either the about section, or atleast on the Download page, Then I beleive it would have attracted some of the developers towards the engine, Even if attracted one single user, then Putting Credits to the Engine is worth mentioning. Edit:- If you guys have read the post properly then I have clearly mentioned that I am banning those developers who are getting that much Popularity and don't think about giving anything back to the engine. It's not like I am banning those developers who are new and are trying to make the community grow, and posting their games without branding or logo. But if you are getting popular and you are like no, I am not going to promote the engine, but I will keep gaining popularity by using help and extensions from the community members and won't help the community. Then NO, I am not going to support those guys. I am not degrading anyone, My simplest motive is to make the community grow, It is not like I have been asking too much in return. Just credit back to the engine. Is it too hard for you guys to give credit to the engine? |
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I'm not sure Coppercube games are the most popular on itch. CCB not even in the list of the most popular engines: https://itch.io/game-development/engines/most-projects. I think projects like Vampire Survivors have more views in a day than the whole library of CCB games get in months:) To the credit, a guy who created it mentioned the engine he was using. Though it's a fair point - it would be nice if a developer of this games mentioned coppercube. Once again, I get the point. I'm just more than sure that ignoring people on the forum and restricting the usage of your content won't help fixing that. I also clicked through the let's plays videos from Camp Massacre page and there no videos with more than 80 views:) Maybe I'm just too lazy to find someone really popular there. |
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I am glad that you got the point. You probably need to see this if you wanna see if popular YouTubers are playing Coppercube games or not and do see how many view are there on the video. See the second game "The Smiling Man". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... if there was some sort of branding or if the developer had put credits to the engine. Then people would have noticed CC as a potential game engine. With potenital I mean games that can be created with CC and can gain popularity. |
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I got your point from the very first message:) I will repeat mine once again for the last time: things that you mentioned (ignoring, restricting, etc) will not work. They are contrproductive to your goals. This guy will not mention CCB on his itch page because of your post. And you potentially turn people against yourself - why threaten, not just ask? Do you have any data which tells how people learn about Coppercube? I mean, you can assume that some of these 500k people who watched this guy's video will come and start using CCB, but this is only a speculation. I can also speculate and tell that none of them actually care about game development and even playing the games, they like to watch his videos because this guy is entertaining. And we will never know who is right - there is no data which proves any of these points. It could be that this is as effective as drawing a graffiti "use coppercube" on the wall next to your house - a lot of people will see it, but no one will care. |
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It's just an idea I have, but I think a lot of people don't like the fact that the coppercube logo is accompanied by the phrase "make if a (free) version of coppercube". Maybe it would be a nice idea to remove the "free" from the phrase, I think some developers think that this can remove the game quality in some way. It would be nice to remove the (free) and exalt Coppercube, increase the size of the logo with some effect, as it is in the free version of Unity. It's just an idea to increase the engine's popularity and I totally agree with Just_in_case, it doesn't hurt to give credits to the engine, it just adds to the work! Once again I thank you for the wonderful work that is done by Just_in_case at Coppercube, without a doubt it makes the engine much better and bigger, and with so much help, plugins, scripts, we just won with all your dedication! It's amazing how we can do so much in Coppercube as if we were in Unity or Unreal, but in a much faster, more practical and easier way, I think Niko has no idea of ??the potential of his engine, congratulations! |
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I liked reading comments on this thread, I didn't shocked me reading @Zoo's comment. He always target @just_in_case for his work,and many others. so it's not a new thing. Julian or Zoomanji whoever he is, is not a man of his words. You can find a lot of posts by him where he said that he is done with community and is not coming back but everytime he comes back he starts attacking someone. @Just_in_case is his favourite target. so it is expected that you will always see negative posts from Julian Zoo. @counterfeit I also have a paid for a version of CC 5, and just for your knowledge, he is not banning you from using your favourite engine, he is banning people from using his own stuff that he has created. You wouldn't have said this if he has created a license terms for his extensions and scripts. I don't know how it degrades you? If he created something then he can put terms and conditions for end user to use it. @Just_in_case I agree with @okeoke, blocking someone or banning them will bring down your image, I am not sure how much this will help other people to come into the community but it will definitely block access to new comers who don't want to show the branding. I personally don't find it wrong in showcasing the branding logo but I always prefer it to be a customised one, not the one with default "created with free version" your extensions and contributions are appreciated by everyone in the community, but you should think over it if blocking access will bring anything useful or not. If it is not going in helping the community grow you should drop this idea of yours and keep doing things that you are doing for years. We all love your work. |
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hehehe, @Aimining_bullets you are not a developer and you are a yes man. I provide constructive technical knowledge in order to improve the community and you follow me around bashing me because you just suck up to everyone that is building things for you, because you suck at programming. I am sitting on a wealth of information, things that Just in case nor anyone else knows that you can do with the engine yet. But I say nothing, because you and people like you just troll and when I provide tutorials, feedback etc... people use my knowledge in their games and then do not provide me with credit. FYI - The coppercube facebook page that you guys all use, well, I created it before it was hijacked. I used to run the first discord server for CC community too. neophyte.cf well that is just a copy of MTM. MTM was even more advanced because it had an active forum and an asset store with split payments so that the community could sell their assests like itch.io - It has over 100 tutorials that I wrote, links to dozens of youtube channels and much more. But people attacked me for it at the time...which is why I shut it down. I remember a few months ago people attacking me because I was hosting source code that I found on the forum with credit and links to the threads but now neophyte.cf does it and nobody says anything. There is only one person in the community that has pushed the community forward and that is Just_In_Case. Everything else that I have seen, I have already done or someone has made a behavior out of someone else's code. I am very impressed with Just_In_Case... Pitty that he back stabbed me in the back and allowed the admin to hijack my facebook group. If he stood up for me I would still be his friend and I would share more of my knowledge which coppercube community really needs. I have a degree in computer science, I have lectured at universities and I make a living as a developer... As for the comment about hackers not needing to know the name of the engine... Well you are wrong... It makes life much easier for them if they know what engine is being used. Security by obscurity is something that you study in university and is specifically designed to slow down attacks and in many cases avoid attacks all together. Yes, there are other ways of hacking an application, it does not make security by obscurity less effective |
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I am glad I am not a developer, but atleast I am not a brag like you. I am not at all interested in knowing you fake stories of past. I belive in what I saw and I have seen you only targeting people in this community and flexing with your irrelevant topics. Yes, I do rely on others work. I don't posses great knowledge like you. but you are no good to this community just a packet of negativity that explodes time to time here and there on the forums. I don't know why you want that person to defend you to whom you are attacking always. I remember you bragiing upon JIC and now you are talking that he should defend you. nobody is going to defend a liar, a person who is always trolling in the community. why don't you just leave and never come back. Your existence in this community is just like a disease. And only moderators are medicine for this desease. |
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wrote: You probably need to see this if you wanna see if popular YouTubers are playing Coppercube games or not and do see how many view are there on the video. The number of views were not for that game mentioned but for the youtuber. That game shown was incidental to the popularity of that channel. I highly recommend to add in the CopperCube logo as much as possible and help attract more users to use and create better stuff and hopefully more excellent code made available but I wouldn't be too bothered by it. Come on back to the forum 'just_in_case' as your input here is also needed, and appreciated. |
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only person who trolls is you... You follow me around everywhere on this forum and no matter what I post, you as a non technical person, make silly arguments about silly things. |
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Zoo wrote: only person who trolls is you... You follow me around everywhere on this forum and no matter what I post, you as a non technical person, make silly arguments about silly things. I think you would be better off in another forum Zoo as almost all your comments here are negative and often abusive. There are thousands of other places you could spend your time better than the verbal diarrhea we too often read from you here... |
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